Science is just the artificial knowledge which extract and draw the way and methods from another knowledge..it was not a pure free knowledge but bound to another kind of knowledge such as philosophy ..
We still can use another method to understand everything around us ..the specific conditions not always be relevant to all ..I don't have problem with learning but science does have multiple kind of ways of learning and there's a process of learning beyond science such as literature and art ..it needs more than science to learning any of those ..the only one knows everything is the one who triggered everything to be existed ..
Science not always be the best way since there's a lot of bad influence because of science.. sometimes we have to banned the scientifical experiment if it's gonna harm humans life ..it deals with emotion, emphaty and the morality of human to let science get involved with certain situations..
yes there's a spiritual world and its beyond than science and physic ..that why it's considered as metaphysics so we need something beyond science limitations to verify those world including for the evidence..the spiritual world is the world beyond our sensible world by using our invisible capabilities ..
religion was CLAIMED to be failed by the one who disapproved it ..it's reliable for general culture and humans course of life.. scientific evidence not always work to explain everything..it has its own failure.. confusion is one of the trigger of curiosity in science
Friday, July 20, 2018
Blameful Atheist
One day.
Theist: Science can't prove everything.
Atheist: You ignorance! You know nothing about Science !!!
The other day..
Theist: Where's the first existence came from?
Atheist A: We don't know but at least we're honest and not pretending.
Atheist B: Just because it's exist it doesn't mean God did it
Atheist C: Not yet
Theist: Science can't prove everything.
Atheist: You ignorance! You know nothing about Science !!!
The other day..
Theist: Where's the first existence came from?
Atheist A: We don't know but at least we're honest and not pretending.
Atheist B: Just because it's exist it doesn't mean God did it
Atheist C: Not yet
The Significant between Purpose & Values
According to my previous post (about purpose of us & the rest of existence), most of Atheist respondents claimed that our existence are pointless & meaningless so I suppose they were considered their existence was no different from dust moreover they were nothing (no values/meaningless)
So I wonder why they keep fighting so badly to gaining and keep protect the 'truth' for themselves (that God didn't exist) since they have no significant to do that upon themselves and the rest of humanity..
If they done it becaused of the sake for humanity & try to keep that way for the next generation but the humankind gonna perish afterall according to the cycle of existence & limitations of time ..all the deniable, rejections, discoveries, arguments etc gonna be meaningless
They have no values to keep & no purpose to go ... whenever they make it or not, it doesn't make any different. Pointless.
Becaused all of that, they don't have purpose to denied God existence or let them to put a determination of morality for any actions..their views upon everything was worthless..
So I wonder why they keep fighting so badly to gaining and keep protect the 'truth' for themselves (that God didn't exist) since they have no significant to do that upon themselves and the rest of humanity..
If they done it becaused of the sake for humanity & try to keep that way for the next generation but the humankind gonna perish afterall according to the cycle of existence & limitations of time ..all the deniable, rejections, discoveries, arguments etc gonna be meaningless
They have no values to keep & no purpose to go ... whenever they make it or not, it doesn't make any different. Pointless.
Becaused all of that, they don't have purpose to denied God existence or let them to put a determination of morality for any actions..their views upon everything was worthless..
Similarities between homosexuality and incest
Similarities between homosexuality and incest
1. Both normally involve consenting adults
2. Both are natural
3. Both are practiced by all species of mammals therefore natural
4. Both are condemned by most religions
5. Both involve love
6 . Both r against the traditional family structure
WHY DO SOME LIBERALS AND HOMOS SUPPORT LGBT AND ARE AGAINST INCEST
1. Both normally involve consenting adults
2. Both are natural
3. Both are practiced by all species of mammals therefore natural
4. Both are condemned by most religions
5. Both involve love
6 . Both r against the traditional family structure
WHY DO SOME LIBERALS AND HOMOS SUPPORT LGBT AND ARE AGAINST INCEST
Indoctrination of Morality
Morality (your personal moral code) is "shaped" over time as you interact with your environment. This is true for both theists and atheists, and the shaping mechanisms are the same for both. The only difference is what aspects are emphasized more. Theists focus more heavily on that which is written in a book, even if what is written is not actually moral. They then engage in apologetics to explain away this contradiction, or simply ignore it (if theists actually followed their holy books to a T, they would quickly be placed in prison). Here are some of the factors that contribute to this shaping process for both theists and atheists...
1) Socialization- the process of internalizing the norms and ideologies of society. Socialization encompasses both learning and teaching and is thus "the means by which social and cultural continuity are attained"
2) Explicit Instruction from early caregivers and teachers (i.e., at some point you were likely specifically taught by adults around you to "share your toys with your friend" or ""don't hit your sister" or "do not grab crayons from your desk-partner without asking first"). As you can see, this is a form of socialization. Morality is something primarily found in social creatures.
3) Indoctrination (such as what you see with various religions, especially followers of Islam, who are often forced to read the Quran hours on end until it is fully memorized).
4) Adherence to cultural norms and societal laws (if you live in a conservative society, conservative dress and thoughts would be the "norm" and "liberal" ideas and behavior would be highly frowned upon, and potentially even persecuted.
5) Interaction with the environment (through mechanisms such as positive/negative reinforcement or punishment, and various forms of behavioral conditioning).
The above is not even a comprehensive list of all the factors involved. For instance, I have not really addressed empathy, or biological factors.
1) Socialization- the process of internalizing the norms and ideologies of society. Socialization encompasses both learning and teaching and is thus "the means by which social and cultural continuity are attained"
2) Explicit Instruction from early caregivers and teachers (i.e., at some point you were likely specifically taught by adults around you to "share your toys with your friend" or ""don't hit your sister" or "do not grab crayons from your desk-partner without asking first"). As you can see, this is a form of socialization. Morality is something primarily found in social creatures.
3) Indoctrination (such as what you see with various religions, especially followers of Islam, who are often forced to read the Quran hours on end until it is fully memorized).
4) Adherence to cultural norms and societal laws (if you live in a conservative society, conservative dress and thoughts would be the "norm" and "liberal" ideas and behavior would be highly frowned upon, and potentially even persecuted.
5) Interaction with the environment (through mechanisms such as positive/negative reinforcement or punishment, and various forms of behavioral conditioning).
The above is not even a comprehensive list of all the factors involved. For instance, I have not really addressed empathy, or biological factors.
The Simple Conclusion of Evolution:
Theist:What's the proof that we are evolved from apes?
Atheist: We have a lot of resemblance with them.
Theist: how's that happened?
Atheist: Took millions of years
Theist: 😑 (I didn't ask how long it's happened)
The Often Experience with Misinterpretation
It's really akward when the none-muslim/muslim made their own interpretation towards the Quran and claimed it was from the Quran ..when we bring them the scholar/general/proper interpretation with compatible & reliable methods, they gonna said it was wrong or tricks 😑..
even the Muslims who memorized the entire Quran, expert in Arabic etc still not qualified enough to make any interpretation from the Quran
so how the Quranic outsiders who were just came out of nowhere and simply quoted & copied from its own understanding or Islamic haters then claimed it was the actual interpretation ?!
They have no other way but gave an excuses such as brainwashed, indoctrination etc to 'proved' their accusations ..but at least they have been honestly shown their foolishness towards the Quranic verses & their true 'intellegence'..
It was drab to explain & deals with the same foolishness again & again and i hope you guys really used the intelligence to disapprove anything ..not wasting time with labelling & lame accusations ..and its gonna much worst when you force us to agree with your terrible misinterpretation ..
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