John 10:30-37
John 10:30
I and the Father are one.
So what is the contex for this statement??..there is no other way but its connected with the next verses…
John 10:31-33
31-At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him.
32-But Jesus answered, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone Me?”
33-“We are not stoning You for any goodwork, said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You,who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.”
It seems Jews claimed that Jesus consider himself as God but Jesus didn’t accept it or denied it becaused its related with the contex meaning of ‘god’ according to those jews (linguistic boundation) ..not literally god is the contex of divinity but it is in the contex of godly work for real God who gave those godly authority.
John 10:34
Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods’?
To defend himself Jesus replied by quote the law of moses (Torah- old testament) which is psalm 82:6
Psalm 82:6
said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High. “
John 10:35-36
35- If he called them GODS TO WHOM THE WORD OF GOD CAME — and the Scripture cannot be broken —
36- THEN WHAT ABOUT THE ONE WHOM THE FATHER SANCTIFIED AND SENT INTO THE WORLD? How then can you accuse Me of blasphemy’ for stating that I am the Son of God?
From the verses John 10: 35-36 the ‘god’ in the contex for Jesus situation and the past jews(psalm 82:6) is the one whom bring the word of God or the one whom sent by Father into the world to do the godly work..Jesus truly the son of god metaphorically becaused he did bring the word of God and sent by God to fullfill the godly mission (mission from God). The same situation like Moses the one who received the godly authority upon falsehood and evil (Pharaoh).
Exodus 7:1
Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I make you as God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.
Jesus clearly state if he did not doing his Father work so don’t believe in him but the fact is he did his task as someone who sent by God almighty…
John 10:37
If I am not doing the works of My Father,then do not believe Me.
Note: One which means inseparable in purpose in mission in relation and connection
But if I am doing them, even though you do not believe Me, believe the works themselves,so that you may know and understand that theFather is in Me, and I in the Father.” (John 10:38 )
Jesus made such statement to described the connection between him and the God are very close connection and relation but not in essence or existence.
But if we are to base the oneness of God and Jesus on those biblical passage (based on Trinity theory), then we have to equally accept what John himself had remarkes in the same Gospel that God must be consisting of not only three divine persons but 15 with inclusions of the twelve disciples as the Bible emphasizes in the following passage…Per assertion of the above quoted biblical passage, we may take for granted that Trinity is extandable to FIFTEENITY:
John 17:20-26
20- I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message,
21-That all of them (the desciples) may be one, as you,father, are in me, and i am in you. may they also be in us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
So the “in” in those verses its supposed to mean the very close connection between God and Jesus and the anyone who honestly following Jesus teached (the desciples)..
22- I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one
23- I in them and you in me — that they may be perfectly united, so that the world may know that You sent Me and have loved them just as You have loved Me.
Jesus clearly wish for loveness of God not just for him but share the love together with his desciples..so Jesus and the desciples perfectly united with the love of God..
24-Father, I want those You have given Me to be with Me where I am, that they may see the glory you gave me because You loved Me before the foundation of the world.
The glory of Jesus was clearly given by God
25-Righteous Father, although the world has not known You, I know You, and they know that You sent Me.
Jesus want the world known the God as their God and know
that Jesus was sent by God (messenger)
26-And I have made Your name known to them and will continue to make it known, so that the love you have for me may be in them, and i in them.”
Note: Unity in one faith one love one heart toward God. One in bondation. One in connection. One in relation. One in purpose. One in mission. One in the same truth. Unity and gathering in one path. The unity of purpose.
1 Corinthians 12
12- For as the body is one, and has many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
13- For by one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
14- For the body is not one member, but many.
John 11:52
and not only for the nation, but also for the scattered children of God, to gather them together into one.
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
1 Corinthians 3:6-8 New International Version (NIV)
6 I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow.
7 So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow.
8 The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor.
John 10:25-30 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
26 but you do not believe, because you do not belong to my sheep. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me; 28 and I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, and no one shall snatch them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to me,[a] is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
30 I and the Father are one.”
Note: The Father and Jesus had one same purpose and one goal to gathered all the "sheep" to received the eternal life and never perished.
People of the Book, do not go to excess in your religion, and do not say anything about God except the truth: the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was nothing more than a messenger of God, His word, directed to Mary, a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers and do not speak of a 'Trinity'—stop, that is better for you—God is only one God, He is far above having a son, everything in the heavens and earth belongs to Him and He is the best one to trust.
— Qur'an, sura 4 (An-Nisa), ayat 171
Those who say, "God is the Messiah, son of Mary," have defied God. The Messiah himself said; "Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord." If anyone associates others with God, God will forbid him from the Garden, and Hell will be his home. No one will help such evildoers. Those people who say that God is the third of three are defying [the truth]: there is only One God. If they persist in what they are saying, a painful punishment will afflict those of them who persist. Why do they not turn to God and ask his forgiveness, when God is most forgiving, most merciful? The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a messenger; other messengers had come and gone before him; his mother was a virtuous woman; both ate food. See how clear We make these signs for them; see how deluded they are.
— Qur'an, sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayat 72-75[4]
John 20:17 King James Version (KJV)
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Conclusion
Those who say, "God is the Messiah, son of Mary," have defied God. The Messiah himself said; "Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord." If anyone associates others with God, God will forbid him from the Garden, and Hell will be his home. No one will help such evildoers. Those people who say that God is the third of three are defying [the truth]: there is only One God. If they persist in what they are saying, a painful punishment will afflict those of them who persist. Why do they not turn to God and ask his forgiveness, when God is most forgiving, most merciful? The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a messenger; other messengers had come and gone before him; his mother was a virtuous woman; both ate food. See how clear We make these signs for them; see how deluded they are.
— Qur'an, sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayat 72-75[4]
John 20:17 King James Version (KJV)
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
What did Jesus mean saying 'I and my Father are One'!
John 10:30 " I and my Father are one " Explained by Ahmed Deedat
Ahmed Deedat Answer - Disciples 'ONE' with God just like 'I and my Father are ONE'
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