Luke 1:19 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
And the angel answered him, “I am Gabriel, who stand in the presence of God; and I was sent to speak to you, and to bring you this good news.
Note: Angles were spoken on the behalf of God
Abraham & the Three Visitor
And the angel answered him, “I am Gabriel, who stand in the presence of God; and I was sent to speak to you, and to bring you this good news.
Note: Angles were spoken on the behalf of God
Abraham & the Three Visitor
Genesis 18:1-5 King James Version (KJV)
1 And the Lord (angle) appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:
4 Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree:
5 And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said.
Genesis 18:8-10 New King James Version (NKJV)
8 So he took butter and milk and the calf which he had prepared, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree as they ate.
9 Then they (three men) said to him, “Where is Sarah your wife?”
So he said, “Here, in the tent.”
10 And He (one of the three men) said, “I will certainly return to you according to the time of life, and behold, Sarah your wife shall have a son.”
(Sarah was listening in the tent door which was behind him.)
Note:There is a clear distinction between, “they said,” in Genesis 18:9 and, “he said,” in Genesis 18:10. In 18:9 only two of the men ask Abraham where Sarah is, but in 18:10, only one of the men says, “I will return next year.” This distinction means this is not the trinity in focus, otherwise the pronouns would not shift back and forth from singular to plural.
Note:There is a clear distinction between, “they said,” in Genesis 18:9 and, “he said,” in Genesis 18:10. In 18:9 only two of the men ask Abraham where Sarah is, but in 18:10, only one of the men says, “I will return next year.” This distinction means this is not the trinity in focus, otherwise the pronouns would not shift back and forth from singular to plural.
Genesis 18:13-17 English Standard Version (ESV)
13 The Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh and say, ‘Shall I indeed bear a child, now that I am old?’
14 Is anything too hard[a] for the Lord? At the appointed time I will return to you, about this time next year, and Sarah shall have a son.”
15 But Sarah denied it,[b] saying, “I did not laugh,” for she was afraid. He said, “No, but you did laugh.”
16 Then the men set out from there, and they looked down toward Sodom. And Abraham went with them to set them on their way.
17 The Lord said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do,
Note:Yahweh speaks to Abraham thru the angel (singular) of Yahweh using the singular pronoun, “I,” NOT the plural pronoun, “we.” Yahweh is mentioned and uses only SINGULAR pronouns for the remainder of chapter 18
Genesis 22:11-18 King James Version (KJV)
And the angel of the Lord called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.
Genesis 22:15-18King James Version (KJV)
And the angel of the Lord called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,
17 The Lord said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do,
Note:Yahweh speaks to Abraham thru the angel (singular) of Yahweh using the singular pronoun, “I,” NOT the plural pronoun, “we.” Yahweh is mentioned and uses only SINGULAR pronouns for the remainder of chapter 18
Genesis 22:11-18 King James Version (KJV)
And the angel of the Lord called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.
Genesis 22:15-18King James Version (KJV)
And the angel of the Lord called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,
Genesis 18:20-26 New International Version (NIV)
20 Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21 that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.”
21 that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.”
22 The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the Lord.[a]
23 Then Abraham approached him and said: “Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 24 What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare[b] the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it?
25 Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”
26 The Lord (angle) said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake.”
Note:The other two men that go down to Sodom are identified as, “angels,” whereas one man stays with Abraham, and speaks to him as, “Yahweh.” This is concrete proof that only ONE man (angel) is speaking as Yahweh, and the other two are merely angels sent to accompany the singular angel of Yahweh in their visit to and with Abraham and his wife Sarah.
The role of the two angels changes when they go to Sodom to rescue Abraham’s nephew named Lot. They are being directed on a different mission as agents acting directly on behalf of Yahweh to fulfil two purposes; first, to warn Lot and rescue him and any of his family that pays heed to the warning, and secondly, to act on behalf of and with the authority to use the power of Yahweh to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah with brimstone and with fire.
Genesis 19:1-2 New International Version (NIV)
Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed
1- The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground.
2 “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.”
“No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.”
These two “angels” were the same men that had earlier been with Abraham and Sarah; the third man stayed with Abraham. These two angels come in the form of men, evidenced by the fact that Lot wanted to wash their feet. Angels appearing in the form of men is not unheard of in scripture, because angels appear as men in numerous places throughout both Old & New Testaments.
When Lot greets these two angels, he addresses them by using the PLURAL noun, and saying, “My lords.” Because Lots calls them by the plural, “my lords,” this proves there is no such thing as the trinity in this context. The Hebrew noun (adonay) that Lot uses to call these angelic visitors, “lords,” is the common plural form of the Hebrew title of respect.
Genesis 19:12-29 King James Version (KJV)
12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent us to destroy it.
14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the Lord will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.
15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the Lord being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.
17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
18 And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:
19 Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:
20 Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.
21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.
22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.
23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;
25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.
27 And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the Lord:
28 And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.
29 And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.
Note:The other two men that go down to Sodom are identified as, “angels,” whereas one man stays with Abraham, and speaks to him as, “Yahweh.” This is concrete proof that only ONE man (angel) is speaking as Yahweh, and the other two are merely angels sent to accompany the singular angel of Yahweh in their visit to and with Abraham and his wife Sarah.
The role of the two angels changes when they go to Sodom to rescue Abraham’s nephew named Lot. They are being directed on a different mission as agents acting directly on behalf of Yahweh to fulfil two purposes; first, to warn Lot and rescue him and any of his family that pays heed to the warning, and secondly, to act on behalf of and with the authority to use the power of Yahweh to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah with brimstone and with fire.
Genesis 19:1-2 New International Version (NIV)
Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed
1- The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground.
2 “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.”
“No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.”
These two “angels” were the same men that had earlier been with Abraham and Sarah; the third man stayed with Abraham. These two angels come in the form of men, evidenced by the fact that Lot wanted to wash their feet. Angels appearing in the form of men is not unheard of in scripture, because angels appear as men in numerous places throughout both Old & New Testaments.
When Lot greets these two angels, he addresses them by using the PLURAL noun, and saying, “My lords.” Because Lots calls them by the plural, “my lords,” this proves there is no such thing as the trinity in this context. The Hebrew noun (adonay) that Lot uses to call these angelic visitors, “lords,” is the common plural form of the Hebrew title of respect.
Genesis 19:12-29 King James Version (KJV)
12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent us to destroy it.
14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the Lord will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.
15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the Lord being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.
17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
18 And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:
19 Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:
20 Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.
21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.
22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.
23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;
25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.
27 And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the Lord:
28 And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.
29 And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.
Genesis 18:33 King James Version (KJV)
And the Lord (angle) went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.
Source:http://www.answering-christianity.com/q_god_not_man_rebuttal.htm
Source:http://www.answering-christianity.com/q_god_not_man_rebuttal.htm
Jacob's New Name
Genesis 32:24-30 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
24 And Jacob was left alone; and a man wrestled with him until the breaking of the day. 25 When the man saw that he did not prevail against Jacob, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and Jacob’s thigh was put out of joint as he wrestled with him. 26 Then he said, “Let me go, for the day is breaking.” But Jacob said, “I will not let you go, unless you bless me.” 27 And he said to him, “What is your name?” And he said, “Jacob.” 28 Then he said, “Your name shall no more be called Jacob, but Israel,[a] for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed.” 29 Then Jacob asked him, “Tell me, I pray, your name.” But he said, “Why is it that you ask my name?” And there he blessed him. 30 So Jacob called the name of the place Peni′el,[b] saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life is preserved.”
Note:According to the Hebrew, it was an Angel speaking on behalf of GOD Almighty
Hosea 12:2-4 New International Version (NIV)
2 The Lord has a charge to bring against Judah;
he will punish Jacob[a] according to his ways
and repay him according to his deeds.
3 In the womb he grasped his brother’s heel;
as a man he struggled with God.
4 He struggled with the angel and overcame him;
he wept and begged for his favor.
He found him at Bethel
and talked with him there—
Note:According to the Hebrew, it was an Angel speaking on behalf of GOD Almighty
Hosea 12:2-4 New International Version (NIV)
2 The Lord has a charge to bring against Judah;
he will punish Jacob[a] according to his ways
and repay him according to his deeds.
3 In the womb he grasped his brother’s heel;
as a man he struggled with God.
4 He struggled with the angel and overcame him;
he wept and begged for his favor.
He found him at Bethel
and talked with him there—
"And above the expanse over their heads there was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like sapphire; and seated above the likeness of a throne was a likeness with A HUMAN APPEARANCE. And upward from what had the appearance of his waist I saw as it were gleaming metal, like the appearance of fire enclosed all around. And downward from what had the appearance of his waist I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and there was brightness around him. Like the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud on the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness all around. Such was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell on my face, and I heard the voice of one speaking… AND HE SAD TO ME, ‘Son of man, stand on your feet, and I will speak with you.’ And as he spoke to me, the Spirit entered into me and set me on my feet, and I heard him speaking to me. And he said to me, ‘Son of man, I send you to the people of Israel, to nations of rebels, who have rebelled against me. They and their fathers have transgressed against me to this very day. The descendants also are impudent and stubborn: I send you to them, and you shall say to them, "Thus says the Lord GOD." And whether they hear or refuse to hear (for they are a rebellious house) they will know that a prophet has been among them. 6And you, son of man, be not afraid of them, nor be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns are with you and you sit on scorpions. Be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, for they are a rebellious house. And you shall speak my words to them, whether they hear or refuse to hear, for they are a rebellious house. But you, son of man, hear what I say to you. Be not rebellious like that rebellious house; open your mouth and eat what I give you.’ And when I looked, behold, a hand was stretched out to me, and behold, a scroll of a book was in it. And he spread it before me. And it had writing on the front and on the back, and there were written on it words of lamentation and mourning and woe.’" Ezekiel 1:26-28, 2:1-10
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